11:40:13	 From Mike Nelson : Even before the fighting started, Russia had been waging an information war against Ukraine plans to develop shale gas in the Donbas region. Example: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3372912-yuzivka-between-fakes-and-the-truth-of-ukraines-gas-independence.html
11:41:54	 From Mike Nelson : More background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_Ukraine
11:47:59	 From Gary Barnhard : Finding the "Confluence of Interests" that help us get past the "Conflict of Interests".  Fear in its myriad manifestations can be thought of as conceptual inertia. Fear of change, fear of bad actors, fear of conflict, fear of the unknown . . .
11:51:04	 From Mike Nelson : It seems Paul will need to decide which of the BIG questions to address first. I'd suggest this approach: 1) How could climate change lead to human extinction? (5 minutes—by citing reports, but NOT explaining the physics and chemistry in detail). 2) What barriers stand in the way? (Companies and countries trying to protect their “business models” by blocking new tech and new competitors. Provide case studies. Saudi and solar. Putin and Ukrainian natural gas. Old nuclear versus new nuclear.). 3) What new technologies can make a BIG difference? How to unleash them?
11:52:19	 From david : I need to drop off.  Thanks everyone!
11:53:25	 From Mike Nelson  To  Paul Werbos(privately) : I hope my comments were constructive, Paul.
11:53:38	 From Mike Nelson : Have to drop off. Take care.
